The Waldensians: Follow Yeshua, F* the System

The Alps where the Waldensians hung out

The Waldensians were true followers of Yeshua, as far as I can see.

They really had pelotas to face off against the oppressive Roman Catholic Church.

The Waldensians were a group of Messiah-followers who decided to obey the Sacred Scriptures more than they obeyed Satanists like the Roman Catholics.

Here is a brief description:

  The twelfth century saw a rise in religious enthusiasm. A need for reform in a Church that had become too worldly was perceived. At times, this religious enthusiasm edged toward the limits of orthodoxy. One such example was the Waldensians.The Waldensians found their origin in the “poor men of Lyons,” organized in the 12th century by Peter Waldo of Lyons. The Waldensians claimed that they preserved a pure and uncorrupted form of primitive Christianity. Apparently, Peter Waldo, a rich merchant of Lyons was profoundly affected by the words of Matthew 19.21, leading him to give his property to the poor. Waldo then chose to follow the life of a mission-preacher and mendicant.However, Waldo’s preaching against the worldliness of the Church brought forth opposition against him and his followers. In 1179, the Waldensians sought recognition for their way of life from the Church at the Third Lateran Council. Their bid failed. Instead, in 1184, Pope Lucius III placed them under a ban. From that point, the Waldensians regarded themselves as a separate body and appointed their own ministers.Ultimately, a crusade was raised against them.

Here also is a general list of their beliefs, presented here from http://www.anabaptistnetwork.com/waldensians:

(1) Anti-clericalism. Waldensians preached a simple message of repentance, individual responsibility and holy living. They criticised the corruption of the clergy and denied that such men should be trusted. Instead they endorsed lay Bible study. The movement was marked by deep love for the Bible and passionate desire to understand and obey it. They were committed to a ‘believers’ church ecclesiology, where the local congregation ordered its life together, and they were determined to submit to biblical authority alone.

(2) Church structure. There was emphasis on the priesthood of all believers, men and women. The role of the preachers was crucial for the movement, but these leaders were not ordained, nor generally regarded as belonging to a separate class of Christians, nor ranked in any kind of hierarchy. They were committed to a life of celibacy, travelling and poverty, dependent for their support on the gifts of members of the movement. Once trained, they were sent out in pairs to visit scattered groups. Those who were not preachers remained in their homes and jobs, devoting time to Bible study and nurturing their faith in secret. They collected support for the preachers, ran training schools in their homes and, where they could, tried to draw others into the movement.

(3) Ethical integrity. They were not interested in speculative theology or doctrinal issues, but in spirituality and ethics. They called people to follow Jesus and obey his teachings. They advocated personal integrity, simple lifestyle and rejection of greed and excess. They opposed all forms of lying and deception. They also generally rejected the swearing of oaths. And usually they practised what they preached.

(4) Non-violence. Early Waldensians were committed to non-violence, deriving this emphasis from a literal reading of the Gospels. They spoke out against violence: crusades against infidels and warfare in general; killing Jews; execution of thieves who were caught stealing food for their families in times of famine; capital punishment; and coercion in matters of faith. This instinctive non-violence persisted through the centuries, though there are instances of Waldensians resorting to violence. Generally, this was provoked by repression, or the threat presented by defectors who might betray them, and was regarded as necessary to defend homes and family. Occasionally, there seem to have been attempts to use violence for political ends, as a form of revolutionary action.

(5) Rejection of superstition. Waldensians discovered that some familiar Catholic practices had no biblical basis. Gradually they removed these practices from their churches in order to cut back their church life to the simpler pattern they found in the New Testament. They rejected prayers for the dead, regarded indulgences as benefiting greedy priests and challenged the doctrine of purgatory. They rejected official fast days and refused to bow before altars, venerate crosses or treat as special holy bread or water. Somewhat surprisingly, many retained devotion to Mary, despite the teachings of their leaders.

(6) The sacraments. They regarded communion as a remembrance, not a sacrifice, and allowed all to take bread and wine. They rejected the theology of the mass and were dubious about the idea of transubstantiation. Initially many continued to receive communion from the priests, but increasingly communion was celebrated in their homes without clerical involvement. On baptism, there was uncertainty. They were not fully convinced infant baptism was biblical or appropriate, but they seem rarely to have abandoned it.

(7) Confession. The importance of confessing sins, doing penance and receiving absolution was retained throughout the movement. Although some continued to confess to the Catholic priests, in many places their low view of priests precluded these as suitable candidates to hear confession. The natural alternative was the travelling preachers, and they certainly performed this role, but the underlying conviction that all believers were priests allowed the development of the practice of confession to one another.

(8) Mission. A remarkable feature of the movement was its determination to continue pressing ahead despite sustained pressure and opposition. Only in the darkest periods was its energies taken up with survival. At other times missionaries travelled across Europe, risking their lives to spread their convictions. Sometimes new churches were planted. In other places seeds lay dormant for years until watered by similar ideas brought by the Hussites in Bohemia or the Reformers or Anabaptists in central Europe. Much of the evangelism must have been cautious and through quiet conversations, since any form of public witnessing would have incurred severe penalties. There are accounts of evangelists operating as door-to-door salesmen, offering various goods and then referring to more valuable treasures, which could be revealed if the local clergy were not informed about the visit. Where there was a positive response, the gospel would be explained and invitations given to join a study group.

The Waldensians tried their best to follow the teachings of Yeshua the Messiah, and did so through many centuries of persecution.  They were butchered by emissaries of the Vatican time and time again.  Catholics who love their neighbours???

Finally, they were unfortunately absorbed by the Protestants, and accepted the teachings of the so-called Reformers such as John Huss and Jean Calvin.

Check out more about them in the Wikopedia entry.

Would to God, not only I, but many many others can initiate movements outside of the Christian Churches.  In these dark times, we need people with vision to break from the Evangelical, Pentecostal, Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox, Mormons, JWs, other Christianised “sects” (did I forget anyone?) and REALLY follow the words of Yeshua.  The Christians have hi-jacked the Messiah and won’t give Him back.  They have managed to do the OPPOSITE of His teachings and design a stupid religion that hates the Creator with all their heart, soul & strength, and hates their neighbours.  I guess they’re pretty good at the “loving self” part, though.

Yours for Spiritual, Political, Economic and Social Revolution,

Dimitri

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Hi, I´m Dimitri. I have lived in Turtle Island for awhile now, so my cultural understanding is slowly improving. Also, I can see things in this place that boggle my mind. Thus this blog...
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